Anyone think large scale warfare will happen in star base?
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I agree with Narial on that there will be battles. But I think we will not see any PLAYER ORGANISED large scale battles. The only way I see large scale warfare to happen within the first year would be if Captain Jack (Youtuber/Leader of Faction Red Wood Industries) would fake one for the sake of a video (He already does something like a TV series in SE). Also I don't really think that large factions will eat up smaller companies. You can implement companies into factions, but that is more on a freewill base or the companies where meant to unify in the first place.
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In Narials post, he explains that there are even Factions in Starbase already that have 1k+ members. There are dozens of other Factions including my own that have hundreds of members.
Many of these Factions plan to fight each other and will. That is large scale warfare, whether its 2 large Factions facing off, or several.
Many of these Factions plan to fight each other and will. That is large scale warfare, whether its 2 large Factions facing off, or several.
Honestly, I don't think that large scale battles will happen very often. The problem is resource balance. If ships are cheap to build, resources won't be valuable and there will be no reason to fight in the first place. If ships are expensive, people won't want to risk their hard earned equipment. Based on how complex construction in Starbase is, I assume we're headed towards the latter scenario. Battles will likely come down to who brings more ships, with the smaller side surrendering and either joining the larger faction or fleeing to avoid their ships being destroyed. Large scale battle will only occur when both sides are equally matched, which will be rare. Factions won't be inclined to pick fights with others of the same size because even if they win, their fleet will still take losses.
Of course, the PVP meta will also play into this. If small fighters continue to dominate, it may be a blessing in disguise. The smaller the craft, the lower of the cost, which leads to people not caring about losses as much. Additionally, pilot skill is more relevant in dogfights, such that an outnumbered force could possibly even the odds if they are experienced pilots.
Another possibility is that everyone will simply be friendly with each other. Depending on what bonuses are gained from owning territory, it may simply be more profitable to trade with your neighbors as opposed to taking their resources by force. If a mega-alliance is formed, they could easily weigh their collective might against any smaller warmongering faction and put a stop to major conflicts altogether out of fear.
Of course, the PVP meta will also play into this. If small fighters continue to dominate, it may be a blessing in disguise. The smaller the craft, the lower of the cost, which leads to people not caring about losses as much. Additionally, pilot skill is more relevant in dogfights, such that an outnumbered force could possibly even the odds if they are experienced pilots.
Another possibility is that everyone will simply be friendly with each other. Depending on what bonuses are gained from owning territory, it may simply be more profitable to trade with your neighbors as opposed to taking their resources by force. If a mega-alliance is formed, they could easily weigh their collective might against any smaller warmongering faction and put a stop to major conflicts altogether out of fear.
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Jack isn't the leader of the SB RWI faction to my knowledge.
To the topic, I believe it will happen as the game develops. People said it wouldn't happen in Eve, and now burning Jita is a damn holiday for Eve. Other large scale battles happen all the time. The same is true in Atlas. Logistics is the hurdle. Once we have sensors and related mechanics, it will only increase in likelihood.
To the topic, I believe it will happen as the game develops. People said it wouldn't happen in Eve, and now burning Jita is a damn holiday for Eve. Other large scale battles happen all the time. The same is true in Atlas. Logistics is the hurdle. Once we have sensors and related mechanics, it will only increase in likelihood.
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Outside of various events (either ran by in-game factions or introduced by the Devs via an update of some kind) I don't think we'll see large scale warfare that often - it'll still happen from time to time, but I think the majority of PvP interactions will be small battles between a few ships at most.
The biggest issue with wanting player warfare in my humble opinion is the risk and reward cost for it all - players aren't going to want to risk their high value ships nor their hard earned resources on a battle that grants their factions or themselves little in return.
One potential idea for a way warfare could be naturally induced is maybe giving the factions something to fight over in the form of special space sectors and territory perks.
Something a little small like certain sectors of space being rich in various minerals and resources compared to other places, or maybe members of factions get small helpful bonuses (like extra amounts of resources per chunk of material) whilst in their territory, which gives factions incentive to spread out across space as much as they can.
The biggest issue with wanting player warfare in my humble opinion is the risk and reward cost for it all - players aren't going to want to risk their high value ships nor their hard earned resources on a battle that grants their factions or themselves little in return.
One potential idea for a way warfare could be naturally induced is maybe giving the factions something to fight over in the form of special space sectors and territory perks.
Something a little small like certain sectors of space being rich in various minerals and resources compared to other places, or maybe members of factions get small helpful bonuses (like extra amounts of resources per chunk of material) whilst in their territory, which gives factions incentive to spread out across space as much as they can.
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Once scrap collectors and other forms of hauling scrap come into play there will be alot more reason to PvP. Big wars are also inevitable it's just a matter of the mechanics existing, pricey as they may be there's already big factions that would attempt to completely eliminate another if the mechanics allowed.