Will one efficient design suppress all creativity?

[totoro]

With the recent changes to weapon power requirements and batteries, more guns == significant extra weight. It'll be interesting to see how they continue to balance everything.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

With the recent changes to weapon power requirements and batteries, more guns == significant extra weight. It'll be interesting to see how they continue to balance everything.

It's going to be very challenging and creative

 

[Meetbolio]

With the recent changes to weapon power requirements and batteries, more guns == significant extra weight. It'll be interesting to see how they continue to balance everything.

I think I might have missed something, what are the changes?

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

I think I might have missed something, what are the changes?

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Starbase Progress Notes: Week 17 (2020)
4月20日至24日
Design

特征

• Balance adjustment: Weapon body electricity conversion increased from 500 to 1500 electricity per second
• Balance adjustment: Reduced Rechargeable Battery electricity storage capacity from 20,000 to 10,000 units

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This
https://forum.starbasegame.com/threads/starbase-progress-notes-week-17-2020.944/

 

[Meetbolio]

Thanks!

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

Thanks!

you are welcome

This update makes the battery weaker and the weapon consume more energy. The energy design of small ships will be more tense. There are many solutions to how to weigh weight and energy. There is no one-size-fits-all solution.

 

[Burnside]

It doesn't make the weapon eat more energy, it just has a higher flow rate, but battery storage just got halved, meaning tesla style designs got nerfed even harder

 

[CalenLoki]

It does make weapons eat more energy.
The conversion rate got changed, so 1500 ship energy converts into 500 weapon energy.

So to i.e. deplete single AC mag, you need 6x more batteries than previously.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

It does make weapons eat more energy.
The conversion rate got changed, so 1500 ship energy converts into 500 weapon energy.因此，要耗尽单个交流电磁铁，您需要的电池数量将比以前多6倍。[/ QUOTE]

Thank you very much for your answers, and does this mean that the small spacecraft can't support the carrier-based weapons for a long time?

 

[CalenLoki]

@Cannon Machine Ballista

There are no separate carrier-based weapons. Time is not a problem, as you can't deplete fuel rod faster than 27 minutes anyway.

It just means you can have 3x less weapons than before with the same generator setup.

 

[Burnside]

Oh, holy crap, yeah, conversion "rate" does not mean ratio.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

@Cannon Machine Ballista

There are no separate carrier-based weapons. Time is not a problem, as you can't deplete fuel rod faster than 27 minutes anyway.

It just means you can have 3x less weapons than before with the same generator setup.

I mean, if the mini spacecraft is powered only by batteries, it will be very difficult for the ship's weapons to be fired several times when the weight of batteries is not too large.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

Oh, holy crap, yeah, conversion "rate" does not mean ratio.

However, this change in conversion rate means that the number of batteries or reactor power needs to be increased by six times to achieve the same results.

 

[quantin]

not only one efficient design,there will be 5-10 design be popular ships,every craft and fight game had themself's best solution unless FB can change the balance usual

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

not only one efficient design,there will be 5-10 design be popular ships,every craft and fight game had themself's best solution unless FB can change the balance usual

If you think so, it's a big mistake. For example, in the game 《besiege》, there's no best plan. The fight between players will always start in an unpredictable situation.

Sometimes it is the super long-distance fire extinguisher burning, which requires fire prevention and fire-fighting design;

Sometimes it's a strong and heavy impact, which requires a more solid and impact resistant design;

There are also times when there is an overwhelming bombardment of artillery shells. At this time, it is necessary to prevent the design from being embrittled by explosion;

There will even be air strikes and mines, which need to deal with the design of air strikes and mines;

In short, as long as the players are not rigid minded, there will never be "the best design". Those who believe that there is the best design are mostly lack of the ability to create new tactics.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

not only one efficient design,there will be 5-10 design be popular ships,every craft and fight game had themself's best solution unless FB can change the balance usual

Of course, the premise of all this is that FB must give us enough freedom, and constantly produce a variety of new modules, so that the types of modules can be endless, so that naturally there will be mutual interference and player balance, rather than trying to make players feel tied.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

On the other hand, everyone has their own control habits and physiological characteristics, so there is no design that can be used for all spaceship pilots, and it must be customized. This also makes the game not have the best plan, instead, it should be "the most suitable plan for spaceship pilots"

 

[quantin]

If you think so, it's a big mistake. For example, in the game 《besiege》, there's no best plan. The fight between players will always start in an unpredictable situation.

Sometimes it is the super long-distance fire extinguisher burning, which requires fire prevention and fire-fighting design;

Sometimes it's a strong and heavy impact, which requires a more solid and impact resistant design;

There are also times when there is an overwhelming bombardment of artillery shells. At this time, it is necessary to prevent the design from being embrittled by explosion;

There will even be air strikes and mines, which need to deal with the design of air strikes and mines;

In short, as long as the players are not rigid minded, there will never be "the best design". Those who believe that there is the best design are mostly lack of the ability to create new tactics.

If some people like multiplayer warship,yes you are right,but if there's one person space ship,no.If there's a practical and cool-look ship,there will have lots of copy about it,some differents but same concept.Thinking about this,if others are fight with their same excellent ship with their own remake,you are using your unbalanced performance ship,that‘s not easy to take them down,if your team fight with a same excellent team,your ships shortcomings will be magnified a lot.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

If some people like multiplayer warship,yes you are right,but if there's one person space ship,no.If there's a practical and cool-look ship,there will have lots of copy about it,some differents but same concept.Thinking about this,if others are fight with their same excellent ship with their own remake,you are using your unbalanced performance ship,that‘s not easy to take them down,if your team fight with a same excellent team,your ships shortcomings will be magnified a lot.

If so, I just need to make a better one to defeat it and replace it. As I said, there will never be the strongest ship.

 

[Cannon Machine Ballista]

If some people like multiplayer warship,yes you are right,but if there's one person space ship,no.If there's a practical and cool-look ship,there will have lots of copy about it,some differents but same concept.Thinking about this,if others are fight with their same excellent ship with their own remake,you are using your unbalanced performance ship,that‘s not easy to take them down,if your team fight with a same excellent team,your ships shortcomings will be magnified a lot.

Only the lazy people who lack creativity will choose to copy a design. If a person has enough creativity and resources, he should challenge the strongest and become stronger.